tell us about that. >> well, he used to come and visit us at our home and david ended up in and out of the hospital a lot because of treatments and infections and we discovered that mit would go to the hospital and visit david. we didn't really know that for awhile. but he did. and i think he must have done that early in the morning because we never saw him. ted bumped into him one time but i never saw him there and i was with david at the hospital most of the time. >> mike: and there was a remarkable story about david who knew that mitt romney was a harvard law graduate and asked him about making a will which is stuning that a 14-year-old boy would even think of such a thing. what did mitt romney do when david asked him to help him? >> well, that is -- his mother knows more about that. but really what happened is knowing mitt that -- was a -- went to law school and he was a lawyer even though not practicing, david asked him because david at that time knew he was dying. he knew that a few weeks before and he was preparing as a 14-year-old boy in his way which is makes him a bigger man